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Alan McCoy  
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 More options Sep 17 2005, 11:56 am
Newsgroups: alt.spam, alt.usenet.software, comp.ai.neural-nets
Followup-To: comp.ai.neural-nets
From: Alan McCoy <use...@futurecorp.to>
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 17:56:11 +0200
Local: Sat, Sep 17 2005 11:56 am
Subject: bayesian usenet filtering
There are numerous solutions for applying bayesian filtering on mail
traffic, but I have yet to see usenet software using this
technology. Is there such a thing? I'd appreciate an open source
solution so I can hack on it, as I know it would most probably some
manual tweaking as it's more difficult to filter usenet reliably, when
compared to mail.

Thanks,
Alan McCoy


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Mike Easter  
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 More options Sep 17 2005, 12:49 pm
Newsgroups: alt.spam, comp.ai.neural-nets
Followup-To: alt.spam
From: "Mike Easter" <Mi...@ster.invalid>
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:49:55 GMT
Local: Sat, Sep 17 2005 12:49 pm
Subject: Re: bayesian usenet filtering
Read in alt.spam, posting & fups changed.  I don't read in neural-nets
posted to alt.spam & comp.ai.neural-nets f/ups alt.spam

Alan McCoy wrote:
> There are numerous solutions for applying bayesian filtering on mail
> traffic, but I have yet to see usenet software using this
> technology. Is there such a thing? I'd appreciate an open source
> solution so I can hack on it, as I know it would most probably some
> manual tweaking as it's more difficult to filter usenet reliably, when
> compared to mail.

Recently there was some promotional palaver here about CRM114, which is
a Bayesian derivative where CRM stands for Controllable Regex Mutilator,
and where the derivation expands the Bayesianess by 'sparse binary
polynomial hashing' or a bayesian chain rule or a Markovian
discrimination.

Without getting into the 'sophistication' of the Bayesian evolution,
some are moving forward with those approaches and applying them in
various ways.  One of the applications is that of Dave Slusher to a news
agent application.

You can read some about CRM114 and a number of links here
http://crm114.sourceforge.net/

You can read some about the Bayesian Markovian evolution in this .pdf of
the slides from a spam conference
http://crm114.sourceforge.net/Plateau99.pdf

You can read some about the application of CRM114 to a newsreader in a
linux environment by Dave Slusher here
http://www.sff.net/people/dave_slusher/crmnewsfilter.htp  "Dave Slusher
is building a Usenet News filter using the CRM114 capabilities. He's
playing with it on Usenet, news stories on Google, TV show listings, all
that cool stuff. Check it out at: The CRM114 News Filter"

If you download the Slusher tar.gz file, you will find its contents
linux based, of course, whereas much of the stuff at the sourceforge
site is also win based.

--
Mike Easter


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Alan McCoy  
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 More options Sep 18 2005, 1:50 pm
Newsgroups: alt.spam
From: Alan McCoy <use...@futurecorp.to>
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 19:50:14 +0200
Local: Sun, Sep 18 2005 1:50 pm
Subject: Re: bayesian usenet filtering
On 2005-09-17, Mike Easter <Mi...@ster.invalid> wrote:

> You can read some about the application of CRM114 to a newsreader in a
> linux environment by Dave Slusher here
> http://www.sff.net/people/dave_slusher/crmnewsfilter.htp  "Dave Slusher
> is building a Usenet News filter using the CRM114 capabilities. He's
> playing with it on Usenet, news stories on Google, TV show listings, all
> that cool stuff. Check it out at: The CRM114 News Filter"

> If you download the Slusher tar.gz file, you will find its contents
> linux based, of course, whereas much of the stuff at the sourceforge
> site is also win based.

This CRM114 engine looks really promising. In fact, the mail filter
that came with it worked on usenet postings without modification.

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